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Arnold to Tookie: I’ll Listen
Published: November 28, 2005

SAN FRANCISCO—Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said he would consider granting clemency to convicted killer Stanley Tookie Williams, the Crips gang co-founder who became an anti-gang activist while in prison.

The governor said Friday he would meet Dec. 8 in a private hearing at his Sacramento office with Williams’ lawyers, Los Angeles County prosecutors and others involved.

Schwarzenegger, vested with constitutional authority to grant mercy and commute a death sentence to life without parole, is not legally obligated to hold a public or private hearing, and decides clemency requests on a “case-by-case basis,” said his spokeswoman, Margita Thompson.

Williams, 51, faces death by lethal injection on Dec. 13 for murdering four people in 1979 _ a Whittier convenience store clerk and three people at a Pico Rivera motel less than two weeks later. He denies his guilt, and has also asked the California Supreme Court to reopen his case, alleging shoddy forensics wrongly connected him to three of the murders.

The Supreme Court has not ruled on his petition.

Los Angeles County prosecutors and victims’ relatives have demanded his execution.

Along with asking Schwarzenegger to commute Williams’ death sentence, his lawyers submitted what they said were signatures of 32,000 people supporting his petition for clemency last week. They said Williams, who has been nominated for several Nobel Peace Prizes as an anti-gang activist, could do more for society alive than dead.

Schwarzenegger has rejected the only other two petitions from death row inmates seeking a commutation of a death sentence.

The governor denied a hearing, public or private, altogether last year for Kevin Cooper, whose execution was later stayed by a federal appeals court. In the other petition for clemency this January, after a public hearing, Schwarzenegger declined to spare Donald Beardslee, whom the former warden of San Quentin State Prison urged be kept alive.

Schwarzenegger’s office said it would decide Williams’ clemency request before Dec. 13.

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Editors: David Kravets has been covering state and federal courts for more than a decade.

Reader's Comments
"+Tookie rest in peace youve done so much for our community youve done bad and youve turned it around and made a difference no one can blame you for whats going on in the world today cause its not your fault parents these days let there kids rip and run the streets like they dont have a responsibility and they aint out doin good parents ont control there kids anymore or there mouths why dont we all read the stupid stuff people have said on here you talkin out ya a**"
-> Posted by kiki / Apr 10, 2007
"why are there so many racists arguing with eachother on the internet?"
-> Posted by for fucks sake / Feb 13, 2007
"He is convicted and Arnie should not commute or grant him clemancy absolutely NOT!
In the south I am sick of the radical racists here I am talking about BLACKS, not whites. The hate that blacks spew at whites here is ridiculous. The women & men act pissed off all the time,they say and do things to whites that are totally hateful. If whites treated blacks as bad, whites would be in court and blacks would be crying foul yet again but it seems the same laws dont apply to blacks!"
-> Posted by Nokaoi / Nov 19, 2006
"listen it is arnolds fault and not looking into tookie's heart to find if he was innocent...but that doesnt mean we have to get racial!!! so any ways we should stop all this hate and think of wut tookie iz gonna do for us and and all the children...so y dont you act like tookie and get your head right than betta have it wrong!!!"
-> Posted by Wrong 2 Right / Oct 28, 2006
"Did you notice how YEAH THATS RIGHT types in all caps. That's how you can tell he is black - he is obviously loud!"
-> Posted by White Devil / Jan 10, 2006
"Don't mind my son, YEAH THATS RIGHT, he is an ignorant black crack baby. Like so many blacks, he blames white people for everything. Like so many blacks he can't take responsibility for anything. He thinks the white man put a gun to the black man's head and made him take a hit the crack pipe."
-> Posted by YEAH THATS RIGHT'S (CRACK WHORE) MOTHER / Jan 10, 2006
"ALL U WHITE HONKEYS, KISS TOOKIES BLACK ASS, ONE THING IS 4 SURE HE DONT HAVE TO LOOK IN TO YA'LLS DEVELISH ASS FACES ANYMORE. YOU AINT NOTHING BUT EVIL ASS CREATURES. DROWNING IN HATE...WUT YOU AINT GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO...AND I DONT GIVE A #### ABOUT YOU HATIN MY GUTS, CUZ I DONT GIVE A #### ABOUT YOU WHITE ASS HONKEYS...NOW PUT THAT IN UR CRACK PIPE AND SMOKE IT, YA BROUGHT IT OVER HERE, OH BUT THE PROGRAMS DIDN'T COME UNTIL, YA'LLS WHITE ASS START SMOKIN IT....WHITE DEVILS.."
-> Posted by YEAH THATS RIGHT! / Jan 08, 2006
"Ansy,

I’m so impressed with your Fat paycheck and your substandard education from “Ryder College”. The way you put your words together speaks volumes about your ignorance. You would not pass an entrance exam from ANY decent university. BTW – anyone can make a FAT paycheck. I’m sure yours comes from the porn industry."
-> Posted by Lateka / Dec 24, 2005
"I was convicted of killing only 4 people, lucky me! I've killed more than 2 dozen! I'm a dead worthless lazy ugly no-good nlgger. Lucky for society they executed me."
-> Posted by Tookie Williams / Dec 22, 2005
"Ansy the monkey, come home please. I have plenty of chicken and watermelon for you. Come home nlgger."
-> Posted by Zoo Keeper / Dec 22, 2005
"Ansy, what exactly to you mean by this "If you want act like and English teacher go get a job as one."? It doesn't make any sense. Do you mean "If you want to act like an English teacher, go get a job as one"? Ansy, you need proper English lessons. Is it because you are black? Probably so. I suggest you go back to the zoo."
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 22, 2005
"(Continued)

I don't see anyone else complaining. I will not be responding to any of your so-called insults or responses. If you want act like and English teacher go get a job as one."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 22, 2005
"Lateka
Get a life. Who left you in charge of correcting grammar? I am not interviewing here for any position nor am I writing an essay. You may think that I need to take more English classes but my FAT paycheck doesn't think so. If I wanted to compose a sentence in what you call proper English I would so get a life. I couldn't be too stupid I have two degrees from Ryder College."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 22, 2005
"Ansy,

I was mainly referring to how you form your sentences. You are just as clueless as you are stupid, especially for someone who has a degree in business administration. You should have taken a few more English credits."
-> Posted by Lateka / Dec 21, 2005
"Anyone wanna come over to my trailer park and wax this hot shaved snatch of mine? I'm here all alone drinking vodka, watching adult movies, and fingering myself in both holes. I have no life. No job. No car. Money is from welfare. Someone please come over and help me. Thank you."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 21, 2005
"Letaka
and as for the other mistakes they are typing errors. We all make them."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 21, 2005
"Lateka,
I do know how to spell and I do have a college education in both business administration and computer technology. The reason some of the words are spelled wrong is because when you go and spell them right especially the curse words the editior has it setup for it not to be displayed."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 21, 2005
"Ansy,

Where on earth did you go to school? You could at least hit “spell check” before you send your ignorant comments that display your poor fifth grade education."
-> Posted by Lateka / Dec 18, 2005
"Did somebody post under my name previously? I noticed that an apparent comment under my name that I never posted was banned by the editor."
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 17, 2005
"To the person that put last entry in here before this one. Please refrain from using my name to fulfill your ignorant comments."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 17, 2005
"Sorry people, I'm an ugly poor low income black woman trying to make ends meet. I have no job, no car, no money, collecting welfare. I use to live at the zoo until they moved me out to a trailer park. I love it here, it's fun. All I do is play bingo and drink vodka all along collecting welfare. Thank you tax paying citizens."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 17, 2005
"To the Editor of this site. I would like to take the time to apoligize to bothe the Editor and viewers of this site for my negative response as you can see there were alot of ignorant postings from another individual. But yet and still there's know excuse for my action. This will not happen again. Thanks for taking the time to read this."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 17, 2005
"tookis son is incarcerated for murder too, at DESERT HIGH
Hes doing 16yrs"
-> Posted by LISA F / Dec 17, 2005
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-> Posted by Tom / Dec 16, 2005
"Smithers so you call yourself. Don't get on this post talking about you've seen me beacuse you have never seen me. If you are going to get on this post at least tell the truth. This is my last response to negative feed back. I am only responding to postive and educational feed back."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 16, 2005
"Keith When you and I first started communicating on this site I thought you were a nice person. I am not interested in oral nor anal sex with you or anyone else. Please don't respond in that fashion. It's not becoming of you. Stay sweet and continue to respond in a positive way."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 16, 2005
"This is to Keith. I know that I also fed into the so called person that constantly replies on this posting with a different but Believe me I will make sure not to respond in that manner again. The best thing is for me to treat them like they don't exist."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 16, 2005
"I know that I also fed into the so called person that constantly replies on this posting with a different but Believe me I will make sure not to respond in that manner again. The best thing is for me to treat them like they don't exist."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 16, 2005
"(Continued for the Police Dept.) Why don't you pay attention to some of the educational things that are being said on this site. I am tired of responding to you. Try educating yourself with positve things. Try listening to some of the facts that are being pointed out by Michael."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 16, 2005
"To the so call Police Dept. We all know that this is the same ignorant person responding to comments made in a negative way. Just because you change your name when responding doesn't mean we don't know who you are. All you do is call blacks Niggers, gorilla's or you make comments on how you want to get someone up the butt. give it a res already."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 16, 2005
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-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 16, 2005
"One note about population distribution that is also likely to have at least a small bearing on national death penalty statistics is the fact that states that don't have a death penalty or in effect don't apply it are often disproportionately white states: Vermont, Minnesota, Maine, West Virginia, Alaska, etc. This is probably due more to history than racial motive."
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 15, 2005
"Yes, prior history of violence is a factor.

One source of this information can be found here:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=45&did=539

This particular study was conducted in Philly, PA. Not even a Southern State."
-> Posted by Michael Buie / Dec 15, 2005
"I would like to see the references for the studies on mitigating factors if you don't mind Michael. I'm curious as to the methodology they used to determine these figures. Do they take into account that a given individual might have multiple as opposed to a single mitigating factor for instance? Also, what effect does having a prior criminal record have on the outcome of death penalty cases. A substantial portion of black males in this country have a prior history."
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 15, 2005
"I hear you, Thomas, about the types of crimes aggravating the mitigating circumstances (ie, the gang/white crime scenario).

I think I buy that, at least on the face of it. It would appear logical that is a factor. Interesting."
-> Posted by Michael Buie / Dec 15, 2005
"More than half of the death sentences rendered in Pennsylvania are cases from Philadelphia, a city with only 14% of the state's population.

Eighty-three percent of those on death row from Philadelphia are African-American.

Black defendants faced odds of receiving a death sentence that were 3.9 times higher than other similarly situated defendants.

The rate at which eligible black defendants were sentenced to death was nearly 40% higher than the rate for other eligible defendants."
-> Posted by Michael Buie / Dec 15, 2005
"Mitigating factors that are supposed to warrant death:

Murder was accompanied by torture (1.9)
Murder committed with grave risk of death to others (1.5)
Defendant caused great harm, fear or pain (1.0)
Murder with multiple stab wounds (0.9)
Murder was committed in the course of another felony (0.8)

Also, notice how just being black rated among mitigating factors!
BLACK DEFENDANT (1.4)"
-> Posted by Michael Buie / Dec 15, 2005
"Now I'm not suggesting that all death sentences are a result of gang activity. What I am suggesting by all this is that the patterns of criminality and scenarios under which people are given the death sentence are almost certainly not entirely synonymous among the races. This is a more difficult thing to quantify than racial or class statistics but may certainly be important to understanding the statistical differences that others might attribute to racism."
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 15, 2005
"By contrast, blacks are more likely to be involved in street gangs. Street gang members often kill each other (a crime that usually does not result in a death sentence) but they also end up killing completely uninvolved people (like Tookie Williams) - to an extent much higher than organized criminals typically do. . . continued"
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 15, 2005
"People invovled in high-level organized crime are often white and commit many murders. Yet they rarely receive the death penalty - the reason is that their victims are also often involved in the same lifestyle as they are - thus they don't receive the same sympathy as that a completely innocent person does . . . continued"
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 15, 2005
"You may be right Thomas about the mitigating factors but one problem I also see are the scenarios that get people the death penalty. I don't believe there has been much research on this issue but let me give you an example in the next post . . ."
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 15, 2005
"What I would like to see assessed in these statistics about race is class. Blacks are generally poorer than whites and less likely to afford a top quality defense. When class is taken into account how does a poor white murderer fair versus a black murderer, for instance? How about a middle class black versus a middle class white?"
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 15, 2005
"Good point, Thomas. But, respect to you as well, that is a simpistic assessment. Keep in mind that for murders to be eligible for Capital Punishment theya re supposed to meet certain mitigating criteria.

Studies have shown that in similar circumstances, blacks are more likely to RECEIVE the death penalty (varying from 4 to 9 times, from the stats I've seen).

Thanks for an honest discussion."
-> Posted by Michael Buie / Dec 15, 2005
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-> Posted by Police Dept. / Dec 15, 2005
"Blacks comprise 43% executions since 1976, while comprising 25% of the population.

Since 1977, blacks & whites have been the victims of murders in almost equal numbers, yet 80% of the people executed were convicted of murders involving white victims.

Of the defendants put to death since 1976, 53% were whites convicted of killing whites and 10% were blacks convicted of killing blacks.

Since 1977 22% of all executions were for the murder of a white person. 1.4% were for the murder of blacks."
-> Posted by Michael Buie / Dec 15, 2005
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-> Posted by COON / Dec 15, 2005
"Michael, with all due respect, blacks commit approximately half of all murders in the United States. The fact that they make up a little over 40% of death row inmates should surprise no one. The circumstances under which more people are likely to be convicted for killing a white are more interesting but I would like to see further investigation into this before blaming on racism, per se."
-> Posted by Thomas Granville / Dec 15, 2005
"One in five of the African Americans executed since 1977 were convicted by all-white juries.

Of all of the eligible death penalty cases involving white defendant, 13% receive the death penalty. Of all involving a black defendant, 18% receive the death penalty.

Study: The fact that a defendant was black was the third strongest aggravating factor when determining a death sentence."
-> Posted by Michael Buie / Dec 15, 2005
"Ansy shut your monkey trap up you fat ugly ape."
-> Posted by Ansy the ugly gorilla / Dec 15, 2005
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-> Posted by Keith / Dec 15, 2005
"Although African Americans make up 12% of the population, they account for 42% of current death row inmates.

Jurisdictions with the highest percentages of minorities on death row:
U.S. Military (86%)
Colorado (100%)
Louisiana (72%)
Pennsylvania (70%)

In North Carolina, the odds of receiving a death sentence are 3.5 times higher among defendants whose victims were white.

The odds of receiving a death sentence in Philadelphia are 38% higher in cases in which the defendant is black."
-> Posted by Michael Buie / Dec 15, 2005
"How ironic that people post nonsensical drivvle in response to a topic that should be important to folk on both sides of the aisle."
-> Posted by Michael Buie / Dec 15, 2005
"i've seen ansy. when she says she's fine don't believe it. her face looks kinda like donald duck's and she's bucktoothed. smells nasty too."
-> Posted by smithers / Dec 15, 2005
"This is my last comment to the board. I would like to discuss the issue further with people but this place has been taken over by morons with nothing to say about Tookie or the death penalty. Everybody is too busy insulting each other and posting under other people's names (my own included) to have real commentary.
It was interesting, have a good time everyone!"
-> Posted by Jake / Dec 15, 2005
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-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 15, 2005
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-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 15, 2005
"GO HANG YOU WEST VIRGINIA DATING COUSIN ASS!!! IN THE FRONT YARD YOU NO GOOD RABBIT EATEN FUC."
-> Posted by ANSY / Dec 15, 2005
"FOR THE PERSON THAT MADE THE BIG MAC COMMENT. DON'T HATE cause your DADDY takes it up the BUTT. YOU KNOW YOU LOW LIFE CRACKERS LIKE THAT GAY SHlT. SO FUC OFF YOU PEASENT"
-> Posted by ANSY / Dec 15, 2005
"Walter you must like gorilla's last I checked you MAMA was a big FAT hairy Gorilla. If you so call don't like me then stop responding to my response you DICK HEAD CRACKER ASS!!! Basterd. Go scratch your daddies dirty NUTS you FREAK. Tell you MAMA I said HELLO"
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 15, 2005
"Tom A monkey and a black women would never give a dirt bag like you a chance. SO FUC OFF CRACKER ."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 15, 2005
"Keith I am not into anal sex."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 15, 2005
"Hey Ansy are you into butthole sex? I love women who like it up the butt. It's a fetish I have. Let me know baby doll cause I wanna hook up with you. Get back to me if you're into oral and ana1 sex."
-> Posted by Keith / Dec 15, 2005
"I CAN'T LIE!! I LOVE THE C0CK! THERE WAS THIS ONE TIME I BLEW ANOTHER MAN OFF IN THE BURGER KING RESTROOM. HE BLEW HIS LOAD IN MY MOUTH. SO WARM AND SALTY. I SWALLOWED THE ENTIRE LOAD. I WANT MORE C0CK!!! GIVE ME MORE!!! HIT ME UP YOU CUTE STUDS!!!"
-> Posted by Jake / Dec 15, 2005
"Hi, I'm looking for hot butthole studs that look like Tookie. I'm a gay stud who loves the #####. I just can't get enough. There was this one time my boyfriend and some other dude gang raped me, they had both their ##### in my butthole. It felt great. They both unloaded their man cream on my hairy chest. Ok Thanks."
-> Posted by Jake / Dec 15, 2005
"Sorry Ansy, I don't date monkeys."
-> Posted by Tom / Dec 15, 2005
"Ansy no one likes you here, you're a friendless gorilla. I highly recommend you stay off this site. Now please remove your fat ugly n1gger ass from here. You stupid ugly n1gger."
-> Posted by Walter P. / Dec 15, 2005
"Hey ugly monkey, what do you say to ANY nlgger with a job? .. Big mac and fries to go please! Now piss off niggers."
-> Posted by Ansy eats watermelon / Dec 15, 2005
"Ansy you ugly bucktooth big lipped gorilla, shut the hell up you gorilla nlgger. Go back to the zoo. Now take your stinky low income welfare collecting nlgger ass offline you piece of crap nlgger. I got a joke for you Ansy the nlgger, how do you stop a nlgger from going into your backyard? You hang some in your front yard."
-> Posted by Ansy the chicken eater / Dec 15, 2005
"Tom, You are so stupid. If I was to post my picture on this site you crackerass would be the first one trying to get a date with me you no good sack of crap. Trust me when I say that I am a sexy looking black women. So I suggest that you shut the Fuc up and take your head out of your butt."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 15, 2005
"To the ignorant jerk that describes himself or his MAMA as being a cotton Picker. Yes I am a sexy Black women and I am married to a sexy black man. again if you didn't get it the first time don't be mad because you have a little dick. You talk about being a ###### lover but you ancestors seems to love blacks so much that they were screwing them so don't be mad because you can't find a black women out there that wants to screw you. for you info black women don't like men with little dicks."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 15, 2005
"No John, actually he will be cremated and asked that his ashes be dumped in South Africa. Bottom line, we’re all better off!"
-> Posted by Shawnta / Dec 14, 2005
"Tookie ain't nothing but a sorry memory now. Ain't nothing but a cold dead corpse under dirt."
-> Posted by john / Dec 14, 2005
"YOUR FATHER SMOKES CRANK AND YOUR MOTHERS AN UGLY WHITE HO"
-> Posted by To Those / Dec 14, 2005
"TOOKIE PUNKED OUT ARYANS."
-> Posted by C from the Bronx / Dec 14, 2005
"Pimpin Dirty Blonde Teens to MILFS"
-> Posted by New Pimp / Dec 14, 2005
"I Pimp White broads because I can and theres nothing you can do about it."
-> Posted by PIMPN BLONDES / Dec 14, 2005
"jake, you can tell by my first post with all the feces and fart references that i am definitely intersted in scat . . . yeah you and my favrite nip yap got to get together soon, well watch h0mo snuff films with actors playing tookie in them"
-> Posted by ronald the que*r / Dec 14, 2005
"jake your so hot I want to stick my man meat up your hole. maybe we can have a threesom with yap after a nice diner of fish and rice and an aftercourse of gay porn"
-> Posted by ronald the fag / Dec 14, 2005
"jake would you like suck a fart out of my ass? youre already so full of crap, another wet fart for you won't hurt. maybe someone should give you a lethal injection too. now pipe down you fruit before i stick my man meat in your shlt hole. ok thanks."
-> Posted by ronald / Dec 14, 2005
"By the way, I am an athiest also so that sarcastic message about Tookie burning in hell was just that: sarcasm.
Being an athiest, though makes it even more depressing to realize that 4 people have had their lives cut shut short in such a brutal and meaningless manner."
-> Posted by Jake / Dec 14, 2005
"Society imposes the death penalty on those it no longer cares to rehabilitate. I am not for applying the death penalty to just any murder. If Tookie had shot Owens during a store robbery accidentally during a robbery, I'd probably feel different. Tookie murdered Owens in cold blood and then murdered 3 more people. He deserved what he got."
-> Posted by Jake / Dec 14, 2005
"Damien, the problem with the good things he has done is that they are in no way equal to the harm he has done. He murdered 4 people and founded a gang that has (and continues to) murder many more.
The 4 people he murdered will never have a chance to do anything good themselves because they have been wiped off the planet. (Sorry if I was being so hard on you earlier, btw)."
-> Posted by Jake / Dec 14, 2005
"Ansy are you a nlgger or are you married to a nlgger? You didn't make any sense in your previous post and you didn't specify if you were a nlgger or not. Now relax retard, take a breather and repeat your post but be specific this time. Bye ugly."
-> Posted by Tom / Dec 14, 2005
"Ansy, not the rooms fault you love niggers! No one in here likes or your ugly gorilla wife. Matter fact, you should ship your ugly gorilla wife back to Africa in a box via Fedex. And no one cares what you have to say here, so shut the hell up and stay off monkey lover."
-> Posted by Ansy the Cotton Picker / Dec 14, 2005
"Richard Sanchez you sound lik a stupid #### to me with the last name SANCHEZ. White folks don't even like you ASS with you GOYA eating self. you are you MOTHERS zoo KEEPER. #######!!!"
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 14, 2005
"Edward you are just as ignorant as these so called ###### haters. If you hated blacks so much then you racists assholes shouls of never brought them here. you are probably the same ones that wished that you could get a piece of blackass. So screw all you ###### haters and screw your mama's too."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 14, 2005
"To you Dustin. Your Mama is a #####! don't get mad beacuse you didn't take the time to read and find out facts about TOOKIE. Now that he is dead take your dum ass and your comments off this site you PIG."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 14, 2005
"To chuck Myers. You want to know how it feels to be with a black women is that you problem you little dick mother focker. If you wish to send me anymore e-mails send it to ansy0326@yahoo.com. Your just mad because your mama was cought Focking TOOKIE."
-> Posted by Ansy / Dec 14, 2005
"in the end u have to accept it, it was a good decision"
-> Posted by johnny tran / Dec 13, 2005
"dude what the #### wut is this #### all about this is wack!"
-> Posted by CandyGurl / Dec 13, 2005
"ooh and btw i dont believe in god so tookie is dead and nothing more to it no heaven or hell bullsjit. I only said that he would go to heaven to provoke some people in to a discusion :D. But i'm still not in favor of the death penalty or tookie's death"
-> Posted by Damien / Dec 13, 2005
"And dont you think the man would suffer a lot more in jail knowing his son died because of his own doing. So it was a better way to punish him to let him alive and it was better for society to. Cause he would probebly get only more motivation out of his sons death and only keep on protecting people from not joining gangs"
-> Posted by Damien / Dec 13, 2005
"yo jake i'm not using tookie as an example to ban the death sentence but i'm just saying that tookie did some good thing to while he was in jail. There's just no denying it. What i dont get is why kill a man that saves people from joining gangs while he's in jail. I dont meen to say that tookie was a saint cause i know he wasnt but from what i read his son was killed. read next post for da rest"
-> Posted by Damien / Dec 13, 2005
"ok, I was just looking on the net to make my own opinion, finally this guy seems to be guilty, a week ago, he was still leading his gang from jail, and his sons were murdered too ... but the thinh i cant' bear is THIS fu-c-king racists that can't make the difference between people only because =) it's only a shame for our America. remember 300M americans and only 190M of us are white ...jesus don't make difference between a white christian, a black one, an asian one ..."
-> Posted by Welch / Dec 13, 2005
"Let's move all niggers, convicted ones first, to an island where we can nuke them all at once. We continue the process till there are no more monkeys. These monkeys are non-human worthless lazy disrespecting pieces of crap that feed off our government. Stats indicate 99% of crimes committed in your neighborhood were done by a monkey."
-> Posted by Killer Bee / Dec 13, 2005
"Yar is a stinky slant-eyed nip who jerks off to gay porn while eating fish and rice all day."
-> Posted by Yar is a Nip / Dec 13, 2005
"Yar's shut your trap you slant-eyed ####. Go back to eating your rice and fish you stinky ugly ####."
-> Posted by Randy / Dec 13, 2005
"you're all a bunch of ####### pricks, ####### cheap american low-life worthles ignorant pricks and you gonna fry in hell"
-> Posted by yar / Dec 13, 2005
"DAMIEN tookie went down not up '. hes in hell , theres no evidence he was saveed"
-> Posted by lisa / Dec 13, 2005
"TOOKIES DEAD , WENT TO THE HELL
AKA THE CRSPY PLACE FOR ETERNITY"
-> Posted by lisa / Dec 13, 2005
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